# How did J.J. Thomson learn that what he discovered was different than an atom or a molecule?

Wikipedia says he discovered that the electron was different than an atom or molecule. His line of reasoning is not shown. I additionally searched stack exchange and unless I missed it.....

I am lost as to what tag to use on this or if it is "off topic". Perhaps there is a good resource on the J. J. Thomson discovery. It is interesting that he was quoted as saying the electron was too small to ever be useful for anything. But since he lived until 1940 he was probably a very happy camper to know how useful his discovery turned out to be.

• You will find the answer here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/… – HiterDean Sep 19 at 3:10
• @HiterDean ....This is a very nice explanation too! The Wikipedia I found was different than this. This article seems to have much more detail in it. Thank you. – Sedumjoy Sep 19 at 3:25
• you should always read related posts about your topic on Wikipedia and other references, in this case Electrons. – HiterDean Sep 19 at 3:34

This constant value, when we measure $$e/m$$ in the c.g.s. system of magnetic units, is equal to about $$1.7\times10^7$$. If we compare this with the value of the ratio of the mass to the charge of electricity carried by any system previously known, we find that it is of quite a different order of magnitude. Before the cathode rays were investigated, the charged atom of hydrogen met with in the electrolysis of liquids was the system which had the greatest known value of $$e/m$$, and in this case the value is only $$104$$, hence for the corpuscle in the cathode rays the value of $$e/m$$ is $$1700$$ times the value for the corresponding quantity for the charged hydrogen atom. This discrepancy must arise in one or other of two ways; either the mass of the corpuscle must be very small compared with that of the atom of hydrogen, which until quite recently was the smallest mass recognized in physics, or else the charge on the corpuscle must be very much greater than that on the hydrogen atom. Now it has been shown by a method which I shall shortly describe, that the electric charge is practically the same in the two cases; hence we are driven to the conclusion that the mass of the corpuscle is only about $$1/1700$$ of that of the hydrogen atom. Thus the atom is not the ultimate limit to the subdivision of matter; we may go further and get to the corpuscle, and at this stage the corpuscle is the same from whatever source it may be derived.