I am interested in a book that has all the fragments of pre-socratics but the notes etc. in the translation are from a mathematician or physicist relating with how each point affected the evolution of mathematics or physics. Case in point Zeno's arguments.
Is there such an edition?

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    $\begingroup$ Carlos Rovelli wrote a popular science book on Anaximander, however I don't think you will find what you are looking for there or elsewhere. Also note that the fragments we have are fragments of the testimonia of later writers' commentaries on the presocratics. Often the fragments are from commentaries on earlier commentaries on the presocratics. For examples, fragments concerning Zeno by Simplicius are from Simplicius' Commentary on Aristotle's Physics. $\endgroup$
    – nwr
    Apr 5, 2022 at 23:56
  • $\begingroup$ @nwr: by the way how come we ended up getting them as fragments and from 3rd sources? They never wrote their theories and it was all word of mouth? $\endgroup$
    – Jim
    Apr 6, 2022 at 7:51
  • $\begingroup$ "They never wrote their theories..." Why so? We have only fragments of the original texts, but for sure there were texts. See e.g. Democritus $\endgroup$ Apr 6, 2022 at 12:18
  • $\begingroup$ @MauroALLEGRANZA My reference (Patricia Curd, A Presocratics Reader) cites no surviving fragments of Democritus, only second and third hand fragments. $\endgroup$
    – nwr
    Apr 6, 2022 at 14:18
  • $\begingroup$ @Jim The basic problems is that when they wrote, they wrote on papyrus and clay tablets, neither of which are suitable for a long life. $\endgroup$
    – nwr
    Apr 6, 2022 at 14:21


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